TTME The Flag of St George

The Thing that Made England

Where does the flag of St George come from and why is it England’s national flag? Is it a symbol of unity or division, why is there relatively little flag waving in England and should we be waving it more? And most importantly – does it go in the cabinet as one of  the things that made England?

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To have your say, and to vote for whether or not the flag of St George should be put in the Cabinet of the Things that made England – visit the TTME Facebook site 

Some handy quotes you might like

‘Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel’ (Samuel Johnson, 1775)

‘let’s bring the flag of St George home and reclaim it as one of the symbols that we use to express an alternative identity that is diverse, outward-looking and inclusive.’ (Billy Bragg)

‘England is perhaps the only great country whose intellectuals are ashamed of their own nationality.’ (George Orwell)

‘By ‘patriotism’ I mean devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force on other people,” George Orwell

In a survey recently, England 61% equate the flag of St George with patriotism; in Scotland and wales for over 80% equate their flags with patriotism and pride.

You might like also to have a look at a substantial survey that came out after  we’d recorded the programme, which looked at the how the English feel about their nationality.


English pride chart


What is the Things that Made England Podcast? 

TTME LogoThings that made England is a podcast, an affectionate meandering through the high ways and by ways of England and the English, the country that, despite all temptations, we both feel proud to be part of. It is the work of podcasters Roifield Brown of 10 American Presidents fame, and David Crowther of the History of England notoriety.

Every fortnight, one of us makes a proposal to the other, and we talk it through, discussing its significance and impact. When all is done, we decide whether or not our chosen idea should be enshrined in the Great English Trophy Cabinet – and ask anyone who is interesting to comment and vote on whether or not we made the right decision. And tell us what they think should go in the cabinet.

One thought on “TTME The Flag of St George

  1. I for one think that the English flag exudes a minimal beauty of symetrical, much like the Japanese flag you don’t need to be all busy with multiple colours or intricate detail.

    And with the flage of a saint, there is a constant reminder that England is a Christian nation. Welcoming to all, naturally.

    As far as Canadians v Americans and our relationship with our flags…
    I’d say we’re more of flag wavers than Americans it’s just we dont fetishize it the way Yanks do. Yanks will desecrate and both worship their flag we wave ours more, with the exception of Quebec, the flag is everywhere at public events. You must be familiar with the trope of the American international traveller sewing a Canadian flag on their backpacks to be treated better? We love the flag as a cooperate brand, not as a holy relic.

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